writing four-syllable idioms in Pinyin

cover of Chinese Romanization: Pronunciation and OrthographyThe latest excerpt from Yin Binyong’s book on Pinyin orthography covers how to write four-syllable idioms in Hanyu Pinyin (929 KB PDF). Here’s a key passage:

almost all four-character idioms can be broken in two halves, called y?jié ?? (language segments), on the basis of phonetic structure. The simple expedient of connecting the two y?jié with a hyphen then provides idioms with their own distinctive written form, and assures ease of writing and reading. It is also a simple rule for students of HP to master.

But not all four-syllable idioms follow this rule, as the reading shows.

This is a worthwhile reading for Mandarin learners, even if you’re not particularly interested in Pinyin. There are many examples of idioms here, all given in Hanzi, Pinyin, and English.

2 thoughts on “writing four-syllable idioms in Pinyin

  1. Seems like a very ad-hoc solution, especially given the fuzzy line between chengyu and other four-character phrases. Proper word and phrase level spacing should be a higher priority. Selective hyphen insertion just introduces something new for people to get wrong.

  2. Did you go through the full reading yet? It opens with a discussion of various approaches and acknowledges that this can be a tricky area.

    On the other hand, the ABC Comprehensive Chinese-English Dictionary tends to render such things solid rather than hyphenated (or even separate). For example, ABC2 gives:
    * j?máosuànpí instead of Yin Binyong’s j?máo suànpí (????)
    * gu?x?nsìjiàn instead of YBY’s gu?x?n-sìjiàn (????)
    * gu?gu?suìsuì instead of YBY’s gu?gu?-suìsuì (????)
    * q?ngqingch?ch? instead of YBY’s q?ngqing-ch?ch? (????)

    I need to see what YBY wrote about this in his later book.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>