{"id":991,"date":"2008-02-12T12:44:37","date_gmt":"2008-02-12T04:44:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2008\/taiwanese-eh\/"},"modified":"2015-12-17T18:14:39","modified_gmt":"2015-12-17T10:14:39","slug":"taiwanese-eh","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2008\/taiwanese-eh\/","title":{"rendered":"Taiwanese, eh?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m so far behind on posts that when Taffy of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tailingua.com\/\">Tailingua<\/a> sent this to me people in Taipei probably really were wearing short sleeves. They&#8217;re certainly not wearing so little now, with the cold, damp, miserable weather we&#8217;ve been having lately. Oh well, at least it&#8217;s better than what so many people have been having to endure in China. I hope Pinyin News readers there are keeping warm and didn&#8217;t get stuck in some transportation-related hell.<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/news_photos\/2007\/11\/ma_yingjeou_hoklo_ei.jpg\" alt=\"photo discussed in this post -- large blue text against a white background, Ma and Siew shown from the waist up with their arms crossed; a blue bird on the left\" \/><br \/>\nThis poster on the back of a bus is for Taiwan&#8217;s presidential campaign. <\/p>\n<p>It reads: <\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><span class=\"py\">T&#225;iw&#257;n<\/span> <span class=\"py\"><em>ei<\/em><\/span> <span class=\"py\">l&#236;liang<\/span><br \/>\n<span class=\"py\">Sh&#236;ji&#232; d&#462; t&#333;nggu&#257;n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"py\">M&#462; Y&#299;ngji&#468; &#8212; Xi&#257;o W&#224;nch&#225;ng<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#21488;&#28771;&#12575;&#21147;&#37327;<br \/>\n&#19990;&#30028;&#25171;&#36890;&#38364;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#39340;&#33521;&#20061; &#34157;&#33836;&#38263;<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s hard to put this into English that makes sense. Perhaps &#8220;Taiwan shows its power to the world.&#8221; The idea is something like &#8220;Taiwan can overcome all obstacles.&#8221; It doesn&#8217;t strike me as a good slogan. But maybe I&#8217;m missing something. <\/p>\n<p>The interesting part is that it has Taiwanese written with zhuyin (bopomofo): &#12575; (<em>ei<\/em>). But the &#12575; is basically just for show, since it doesn&#8217;t serve any linguistic purpose that the expected Chinese character &#8212; &#30340; (<em>de<\/em>), indicating the possessive &#8212; wouldn&#8217;t provide. The sign is still in Mandarin. (<span class=\"py\">D&#462; t&#333;nggu&#257;n<\/span>, for example, is not a Taiwanese expression, according to several native speakers I questioned about this.)<\/p>\n<p>For those who don&#8217;t know, <span class=\"py\">M&#462; Y&#299;ngji&#468;<\/span> and <span class=\"py\">Xi&#257;o W&#224;nch&#225;ng<\/span> comprise the KMT&#8217;s ticket for next month&#8217;s presidential election. <\/p>\n<p>Both Ma and Xiao use unusual spellings for the way they write their names in the Roman alphabet: Ma Ying-jeou and Vincent Siew, respectively. <\/p>\n<p>The &#8220;Ying-jeou&#8221; of Ma&#8217;s name gives the appearance of Gwoyeu Romatzyh. But in that system his name would be &#8220;Maa Ing-jeou.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Siew&#8221; for Hanyu Pinyin&#8217;s <span class=\"py\">Xi&#257;o<\/span> indicates that the source is likely a language other than Mandarin. But Taiwanese isn&#8217;t it, though Siew, unlike Ma, was born here. Because of that spelling, many foreigners in Taiwan pronounce his family name like the English word &#8220;shoe.&#8221; &#8220;Vincent&#8221; is of course an &#8220;English name&#8221; rather than a romanization of his birth name.<\/p>\n<p>As I&#8217;m fond of pointing out, perhaps the only prominent Taiwan politician whose name is recognizably Hanyu Pinyin and only Hanyu Pinyin is President Chen Shui-bian, the man most responsible for seeing that Taiwan did <em>not<\/em> adopt Hanyu Pinyin during his tenure.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m so far behind on posts that when Taffy of Tailingua sent this to me people in Taipei probably really were wearing short sleeves. They&#8217;re certainly not wearing so little now, with the cold, damp, miserable weather we&#8217;ve been having &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2008\/taiwanese-eh\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[78,12,15,33,93,28,32,94,3,34,31,45],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-991","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bopomofo","category-chinese","category-chinese-characters","category-hokkien","category-hoklo","category-languages","category-mandarin","category-minnan","category-taiwan","category-taiwanese","category-writing-systems","category-zhuyin"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/991","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=991"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/991\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7081,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/991\/revisions\/7081"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=991"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=991"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=991"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}