{"id":7204,"date":"2017-04-25T19:57:45","date_gmt":"2017-04-25T11:57:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/?p=7204"},"modified":"2017-04-23T15:00:25","modified_gmt":"2017-04-23T07:00:25","slug":"guabao","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2017\/guabao\/","title":{"rendered":"Guabao"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"float: left; width: 250px; padding-right: 10px; padding-bottom: 10px;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/0\/08\/Steamed_Sandwich%2Ctaken_by_LeoAlmighty.jpg\/240px-Steamed_Sandwich%2Ctaken_by_LeoAlmighty.jpg\" alt=\"guabao\" \/><\/div>\n<p>Today I&#8217;d like to talk about a sign at a stand that sells <em>guabao<\/em>, a quintessential Taiwanese snack. <\/p>\n<p>I took my own photo, but it didn&#8217;t make the guabao look particularly appetizing, so I&#8217;m using a public-domain image instead so you can see what one looks like if you don&#8217;t already know. But when I buy one I have them leave off the cilantro\/xi&#257;ngc&#224;i. I <em>hate<\/em> that stuff.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the sign. <\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/news_photos\/2016\/03\/guabao_sign.jpg\" alt=\"guabao sign, as described below\" width=\"500\" height=\"889\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-7210\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/news_photos\/2016\/03\/guabao_sign.jpg 500w, https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/news_photos\/2016\/03\/guabao_sign-169x300.jpg 169w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: 2em; text-align: center; padding: 2em 0em;\">&#31169;&#25151;a<br \/>\n&#21000;&#21253;<\/p>\n<p>&#29544;&#23478;&#21475;&#21619;<br \/>\n50&#20803;\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>(NT$50 is about US$1.50.)<\/p>\n<p>The sign uses some Taiwanese, specifically &#8220;a&#21000;&#21253;.&#8221; If the whole thing were in romanized Taiwanese, it would be <\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: 2em; text-align: center; padding: 2em 0em;\">Su-p&#226;ng &#234;<br \/>\nkoah-pau<\/p>\n<p>To&#781;k-ka kh&#225;u-b&#299;<br \/>\n50 &#238;&#8319;<\/p><\/div>\n<p>But parts of that are unidiomatic, as Taiwanese expert Michael Cannings informs me. (Alas, my Taiwanese sucks.) So this is a sign in both Taiwanese and Mandarin, which isn&#8217;t particularly surprising given that <em>guabao<\/em> is a Taiwanese food but most people in northern Taiwan use Mandarin most of the time. (I&#8217;m using the spelling &#8220;guabao&#8221; rather than &#8220;koah-pau&#8221; in most of this post because this is a Pinyin site.)<\/p>\n<p>Something about this sign did surprise me a lot. Can you guess? <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>It&#8217;s not the use of a Roman letter &#8212; I should probably say &#8220;English letter&#8221; in this case, since here the letter is meant to be pronounced much like the &#8220;A&#8221; in &#8220;ABC&#8221; &#8212; though regular readers know that&#8217;s certainly more than enough to get me interested.<\/li>\n<li>It&#8217;s not that the sign has &#8220;&#21000;&#21253;&#8221; rather than &#8220;&#21106;&#21253;&#8221; for <em>guabao<\/em>. In searches restricted to .tw domains, Google returns 181,000 results for \u201c&#21000;&#21253;\u201d and just 41,900 results for \u201c&#21106;&#21253;\u201d, even though <a href=\"http:\/\/goo.gl\/yYbF5k\">Taiwan&#8217;s Ministry of Education prefers the latter form<\/a>. Even on government Web pages \u201c&#21000;&#21253;\u201d beats \u201c&#21106;&#21253;\u201d by a ratio of more than two to one. <\/li>\n<li>It&#8217;s not the style in which &#8220;&#21000;&#21253;&#8221; is written by hand, though I kinda like that. <\/li>\n<li>And it&#8217;s not even that &#8220;a&#8221; was used instead of a different Roman letter: &#8220;&ecirc;&#8221;.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>What seems to me most distinctive about this sign is that <em>the Roman letter appears in lowercase<\/em> rather than as &#8220;A&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>A single letter being used to represent a Sinitic morpheme in a text otherwise in Chinese characters is almost always written in upper case, e.g., A&#33756;, &#23470;&#20445;G&#19969;, K&#26360;. (Oh, that reminds me: I really need to answer that e-mail message about <em>K<\/em>. Sorry, Steven.)<\/p>\n<p>In other words, if a sign is going to have the Roman letter &#8220;a&#8221; stand in for the Taiwanese possessive particle (the equivalent of Mandarin&#8217;s <em>de<\/em>\/&#30340;), I would expect in this particular case for the sign to have &#8220;&#31169;&#25151;A&#8221; rather than &#8220;&#31169;&#25151;a&#8221;. I&#8217;m pleased by the use of lowercase; capital letters should be mainly for proper nouns and the beginnings of sentences. <\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s probably a one-off. But just in case I&#8217;ll be on the lookout to see if there&#8217;s a trend toward greater use of lowercase. <\/p>\n<p>The text also presents a challenge: How should this be written in Pinyin? The last part  (&#29544;&#23478;&#21475;&#21619; \/ 50&#20803;) is easy, because it&#8217;s just straight modern standard Mandarin: <\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: 2em; text-align: center;\">d&#250;ji&#257; k&#466;uw&#232;i<br \/>\n50 yu&#225;n<\/div>\n<p>But what to do with this? <\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: 2em; text-align: center;\">&#31169;&#25151;a<br \/>\n&#21000;&#21253;<\/div>\n<p>Probably this: <\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: 2em; text-align: center;\">S&#299;f&#225;ng <em>&ecirc;<\/em><br \/>\n<em>guabao<\/em><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today I&#8217;d like to talk about a sign at a stand that sells guabao, a quintessential Taiwanese snack. 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