{"id":4555,"date":"2011-07-05T19:29:52","date_gmt":"2011-07-05T11:29:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/?p=4555"},"modified":"2018-01-15T22:32:53","modified_gmt":"2018-01-15T14:32:53","slug":"pinyins-never-used-letter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2011\/pinyins-never-used-letter\/","title":{"rendered":"Pinyin&#8217;s never-used letter?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As most people reading this blog know, Mandarin has about 1,300 syllables (interjections and loan words complicate the count a little). If tones &#8212; a basic part of the language &#8212; are disregarded, the number of drops to <a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/romanization\/compare\/hanyu.html\">400 and something syllables<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Given 410 or so basic syllables and 4 tones &#8212; one of these days I need to write something more on the wrongful neglect of the so-called neutral tone &#8212; some people might expect there to be more like 1,640 syllables instead of about 1,300. The reason for the lower number is that <em>not all syllables exist in all four tones<\/em>. For example, quite clearly the official language of Zh&#333;nggu&#243; does not lack <em>zh&#333;ng<\/em> &#8230; or <em>zh&#466;ng<\/em> or <em>zh&#242;ng<\/em>. But <em>zh&#243;ng<\/em> is another matter. <\/p>\n<p>So not all possible tonal variations of those 400-something syllables appear in modern standard Mandarin. But what about <em>letters<\/em>? <\/p>\n<p>If you look at the <a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/romanization\/hanyu\/chinese_alphabet.html\">official alphabet for Hanyu Pinyin<\/a>, it&#8217;s exactly the same as that for English (other than in pronunciation, of course), which is a bit odd, especially considering that Pinyin doesn&#8217;t use the letter v (or at least <a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2009\/v-for-u\/\">isn&#8217;t supposed to<\/a> for Mandarin words). <\/p>\n<p>So in this case, I&#8217;m excluding <em>v<\/em> but otherwise being expansionist about the glyphs I&#8217;m calling letters. To be specific: I&#8217;m referring to a-z, minus v, but including <span class=\"py\">&#257;, &#225;, &#462;, &#224;, &#275;, &#233;, &#283;, &#232;, &#299;, &#237;, &#464;, &#236;, &#333;, &#243;, &#466;, &#242;, &#363;, &#250;, &#468;, &#249;, &#252;, &#470;, &#472;, &#474;, and &#476;<\/span>. (Even though <span class=\"py\">&#298;, &#205;, &#463;, &#204;, &#362;, &#218;, &#467;, &#217;, &#220;, &#469;, &#471;, &#473;, and &#475;<\/span> never come at the beginning of a word, let&#8217;s not automatically eliminate them, because there is an occasional need for ALL CAPS.)<\/p>\n<p>Are there any of those possible glyphs that don&#8217;t appear at all &#8212; at least as given in the large <a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/readings\/abc2.html\"><em>ABC Comprehensive Chinese-English Dictionary<\/em><\/a>?<\/p>\n<p>The answer, perhaps surprisingly, is <em>yes<\/em>. <\/p>\n<p>Which letter is it? <\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: 2.5em; margin-bottom: 15em;\"><span style=\"color: gray; padding-left: 1em; font-size: smaller;\">a.<\/span> &#470;  <span style=\"color: gray; padding-left: 1em; font-size: smaller;\">b.<\/span> &#472; <span style=\"color: gray; padding-left: 1em; font-size: smaller;\">c.<\/span> &#474; <span style=\"color: gray; padding-left: 1em; font-size: smaller;\">d.<\/span> &#476;<\/div>\n<p>Have you made your choice? <\/p>\n<p>It doesn&#8217;t take much thought to eliminate <em>C<\/em> as the answer. &#8220;N&#474;&#8221; (woman) is one of those first-couple-of-Mandarin-lessons vocabulary terms. And the word for <em>green<\/em> (<span class=\"py\">l&#476;s&#232;<\/span>) is hardly obscure either. It might be harder to think of a word with the letter <span class=\"py\">&#472;<\/span>; but there are some. <em>Donkey<\/em> (<span class=\"py\">l&#472;<\/span>) is probably the most common. So the answer is A: &#470;. <\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s important to note that the lack of &#470; is in <em>appearance only<\/em>. The <em>sound<\/em> &#470; occurs in plenty of Mandarin words; it&#8217;s just that Pinyin&#8217;s simplified orthography calls for writing &#8220;u&#8221; instead <a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/rules\/initials_finals.html\">where &#470; follows j, q, x, or y<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>But even though I didn&#8217;t find an example of &#470;, I&#8217;d encourage font designers not to scratch it from their list of must-have glyphs for Pinyin faces, especially since teachers will no doubt want to continue giving tone-pattern drills based on four tones for all vowels, regardless. Also, someone with a searchable edition of the <em>Hanyu Da Cidian<\/em> or maybe the new <a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2011\/oxford-chinese-dictionary-goes-online\/\">Oxford online edition<\/a> is probably about to use the comments to point me to some obscure entry there&#8230;. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As most people reading this blog know, Mandarin has about 1,300 syllables (interjections and loan words complicate the count a little). If tones &#8212; a basic part of the language &#8212; are disregarded, the number of drops to 400 and &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2011\/pinyins-never-used-letter\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[104,4,12,106,28,95,32,20,807,19,127,105,31],"tags":[647],"class_list":["post-4555","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-alphabet","category-china","category-chinese","category-hanyu","category-languages","category-linguistics","category-mandarin","category-pinyin","category-pinyin-font-misc","category-romanization","category-tonal-languages","category-tone-marks","category-writing-systems","tag-umlaut"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4555","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4555"}],"version-history":[{"count":43,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4555\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5786,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4555\/revisions\/5786"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4555"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4555"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4555"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}