{"id":4055,"date":"2011-03-02T19:18:42","date_gmt":"2011-03-02T11:18:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/?p=4055"},"modified":"2011-03-02T19:50:41","modified_gmt":"2011-03-02T11:50:41","slug":"bing-maps-for-taiwan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2011\/bing-maps-for-taiwan\/","title":{"rendered":"Bing Maps for Taiwan"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The maps of Taiwan put out by <a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2009\/google-maps-switches-to-hanyu-pinyin-for-taiwan-sloppily\/\">GooGle<\/a> are plagued with errors in their use of Pinyin. But what about that <em>other<\/em> big company with deep pockets? You know: Microsoft. How good a job does Microsoft&#8217;s Bing do with its maps of Taiwan?<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/news_photos\/2011\/03\/bing_map_taiwan.gif\" alt=\"map of Taiwan from Bing, showing Wade-Giles place names\" title=\"stuck in the '70s?\" style=\"width: 246px; height: 351px; float: right;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I won&#8217;t keep y&#8217;all waiting: After examining Bing&#8217;s maps of Taiwan the two words that came first to mind were <em>incompetent<\/em> and <em>atrocious<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>The country-level map is odd, offering Wade-Giles. And although the use of the hyphen is irregular, I will give Bing points for getting at least <a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/romanization\/wadegiles\/bastardized.html\">Wade-Giles&#8217; apostrophes<\/a> right. So, although some place names on the map are <em>decades<\/em> out of date (e.g., Hsin-chuang, Chungli, Chunan, Kuang-fu), at least they&#8217;re not horribly misspelled within that system. <\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s at the street level that Bing&#8217;s weirdness becomes most apparent. For example, below is part of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bing.com\/maps\/?v=2&#038;cp=25.01810199465865~121.46730819024576&#038;lvl=16&#038;dir=0&#038;sty=r\">Bing&#8217;s map of Banqiao<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>I added the highlighting. <\/p>\n<div style=\"clear: both; border-top: 1.5em solid white;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/news_photos\/2011\/03\/banqiao_map_large.gif\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/news_photos\/2011\/03\/banqiao_map_closeup.gif\" alt=\"click for larger map\" title=\"banqiao_map_closeup\" width=\"345\" height=\"317;\"  \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>This tiny but representative fragment of the map has not one but <em>four<\/em> romanization systems:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>MPS2<\/strong>: Gung Guang, Min Chiuan, Shin Fu (Even within MPS2, none of those should have spaces or extra capital letters.)<\/li>\n<li><strong>Hanyu Pinyin<\/strong>: Banqiao (This is the <em>only<\/em> properly written place name on this map fragment.)<\/li>\n<li><strong>Tongyong Pinyin<\/strong>: Jhancian, Sianmin, Sin Jhan<\/li>\n<li><strong>Gwoyeu Romatzyh<\/strong>(!): Shinjann (This is the same road as the one marked &#8220;Sin Jhan&#8221;. In Hanyu Pinyin, which is what officially should be used here, this is written &#8220;Xinzhan&#8221;.)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>A few more points about this small fragment of the map: <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Wen Hua<\/em> could be either MPS2 or Hanyu Pinyin, but not Tongyong Pinyin. And it should be <em>Wenhua<\/em>.<\/li>\n<li><em>Minan<\/em> is missing an <a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/romanization\/hanyu\/apostrophes.html\">apostrophe<\/a>. (It should be <em>Min&#8217;an<\/em>.) <\/li>\n<li><em>Banchiao<\/em> is just wrong, regardless of the system. They were probably going for MPS2 but erroneously used an <em>o<\/em> instead of a <em>u<\/em>: <em>Banchiau<\/em>.<\/li>\n<li><em>Sec 1 Rd<\/em> should be <em>Rd Sec. 1<\/em>.<\/li>\n<li><em>Mrt<\/em> should be <em>MRT<\/em>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>So that&#8217;s four systems, <em>plus<\/em> additional errors. <\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s much, much more that&#8217;s wrong with this than is right. That&#8217;s even more evident on a <a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/news_photos\/2011\/03\/banqiao_map_large.gif\">larger map<\/a> &#8212; and that&#8217;s <em>without<\/em> me bothering to mark orthographic problems in the Pinyin (e.g., <em>Wen Hua<\/em> instead of the correct <em>Wenhua<\/em>).<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/news_photos\/2011\/03\/banqiao_map_large.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/news_photos\/2011\/03\/banqiao_map_large-300x184.gif\" alt=\"click for larger view\" title=\"banqiao_map_large\" width=\"300\" height=\"184\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-4151\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/news_photos\/2011\/03\/banqiao_map_large-300x184.gif 300w, https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/news_photos\/2011\/03\/banqiao_map_large-1024x630.gif 1024w, https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/news_photos\/2011\/03\/banqiao_map_large.gif 1281w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here bastardized Wade-Giles (e.g., &#8220;Mrt-Hsinpu&#8221; at top, center &#8212; and, FWIW, in the <em>wrong location<\/em>) has been added to the mix, making a total of <em>five different romanization systems<\/em>, as well as some weird spellings, e.g., U Nung, Win De, Bah De, Ying Sh &#8212; and that&#8217;s without including my favorite, <em>JRLE<\/em>, because that one is correct in MPS2 (&#8220;Zhile&#8221; in Hanyu Pinyin). <\/p>\n<p>The main point is that vast majority of names are spelled <em>wrong<\/em>. And among the few that are spelled correctly, those that are written with correct orthography can be counted on one hand. So, to the words above (<em>incompetent<\/em> and <em>atrocious<\/em>) let me add <em>FUBAR<\/em>. <\/p>\n<p>The copyright statement lists not only Microsoft but also <a href=\"http:\/\/www.navteq.com\/\">Navteq<\/a>. The Taiwan maps on the latter company&#8217;s site, however, are different from those on Bing. Navteq&#8217;s are generally in Hanyu Pinyin, though almost invariably improperly written (e.g., Tai bei Shi, Ban Qiao Shi). And despite the prevalence of Hanyu Pinyin, they still contain other romanization systems (e.g., Jhong Shan) and outright errors (e.g., Shin Jahn).<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/news_photos\/2011\/03\/navteq_banqiao_map.gif\" alt=\"\" title=\"navteq_banqiao_map\" width=\"459\" height=\"485\"  \/><br \/>\nSo an update from Navteq wouldn&#8217;t be nearly enough to fix Bing&#8217;s problems, which are fundamental. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The maps of Taiwan put out by GooGle are plagued with errors in their use of Pinyin. But what about that other big company with deep pockets? You know: Microsoft. How good a job does Microsoft&#8217;s Bing do with its &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2011\/bing-maps-for-taiwan\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12,133,106,32,20,3,52],"tags":[717,713,668,714,716,715,627,689],"class_list":["post-4055","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-chinese","category-gwoyeu-romatzyh","category-hanyu","category-mandarin","category-pinyin","category-taiwan","category-tongyong","tag-banqiao-2","tag-bing-maps","tag-google-maps","tag-map-of-taiwan","tag-mapping","tag-microsoft","tag-mps2","tag-xinbei"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4055","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4055"}],"version-history":[{"count":40,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4055\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4157,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4055\/revisions\/4157"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4055"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4055"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4055"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}