I recently complained about the needless and indeed counterproductive insertion of Taipei<\/em> and Nangang<\/em> into station names, such as in the case of adding “Taipei” to the English name of what in Mandarin is only “Nángǎng Zhǎnlǎnguǎn<\/span>” (南港展覽館). But that’s not the only case of “Taipei” given in an English name that doesn’t have the city name included in Mandarin. Two more instances of this are “Taipei Zoo,” which in Mandarin is simply Dòngwùyuán<\/span> (動物園), and “Taipei City Hall,” which in Mandarin is Shìzhèngfǔ<\/span> (市政府).<\/p>\n First let’s examine the case of “Taipei Zoo.” The Mandarin name for this is simply the word for zoo<\/em>: dòngwùyuán<\/span>. So in English why not call this stop simply Zoo<\/em> instead of Taipei Zoo<\/em>? (There’s certainly no Xindian Zoo, Banqiao Zoo, Xinzhuang Zoo, Sanchong Zoo, etc., anywhere on the MRT system.) <\/p>\n There’s no clear answer. Although Hanziphiles love to proclaim “Just one Chinese character is enough,” the Mandarin language is most definitely not a monosyllabic one, especially when it comes to place names. (See, for example, Taipei street names and the monosyllabic myth<\/a>.) So it’s possible that what’s happening here is the habits of Mandarin are being overwritten upon English. <\/p>\n Interestingly, in metropolitan Taipei most native Mandarin speakers, if they had to add a geographical distinction, would probably call this the Mùzhà Dòngwùyuán<\/span> (木柵動物園) rather than the Táiběi Dòngwùyuán<\/span> (台北動物園). <\/p>\n I’m more interested, however, in the case of “Taipei City Hall,” which in which in Mandarin is Shìzhèngfǔ<\/span> (市政府) — again, no Táiběi<\/span>. In this case adding “Taipei” makes sense because there really is another city hall stop on the MRT system: Xindian City Hall, which in Mandarin is Xīndiàn Shìgōngsuǒ<\/span> (新店市公所). <\/p>\n Translated literally, shìzhèngfǔ<\/span> is city government<\/em> and shìgōngsuǒ<\/span> is city administrative office<\/em>. They have different names in Mandarin because of Taiwan’s somewhat convoluted governmental structure, a shìzhèngfǔ<\/span> having somewhat greater autonomy than a shìgōngsuǒ<\/span>. Nevertheless, in English both would usually be called simply city hall<\/em>. Although New York City has hundreds of times more people than, say, Hays, Kansas (population 20,000), both places have a city hall … because usually that’s what cities have, regardless of their size or importance. <\/p>\n And for years the Taipei MRT has had a station named “Taipei City Hall” and another named “Xindian City Hall,” which is of course as it should be. <\/p>\n Unfortunately, however, Taiwan’s bureaucracy does not agree. The RDEC, keeper of the government’s bilingual stylebook for organizations, says that a shìgōngsuǒ<\/span> is a city office<\/em>, not a city hall, which is perhaps what has prompted the authorities with the MRT to change the perfectly good English name of “Xindian City Hall Station” to the distinctly worse “Xindian City Office Station.”<\/p>\n Basically, if there’s a discrepancy between how something is usually said in English and how some government official in Taiwan thinks it’s supposed to be said in English, real English loses. The same applies to Pinyin, whose clear and simple rules continue to be ignored here. <\/p>\n Both names — Xindian City Hall<\/em> and Xindian City Office<\/em> — can currently be seen on signage in the MRT system. The system maps next to MRT car doors have Xindian City Hall<\/em> (see image at the left below). But the new long strips above the MRT doors (right) have Xindian City Office<\/em>. <\/p>\n I expect Xindian City Hall<\/em> to disappear soon. <\/p>\n Can anyone tell me what’s currently on that station itself?<\/p>\n This follows up my previous post: new Taipei MRT stations and wordy names. Although the MRT system resists fixing the mistakes in its station names — such as in wordy, unnatural English names or misuse of Hanyu Pinyin — that … Continue reading ![\"xindian_city_hall\"](\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/news_photos\/2009\/06\/xindian_city_hall.gif\" "\\"xindian_city_hall\\"")
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