{"id":1496,"date":"2008-10-15T21:57:55","date_gmt":"2008-10-15T13:57:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/?p=1496"},"modified":"2008-10-15T21:57:55","modified_gmt":"2008-10-15T13:57:55","slug":"mandarin-classes-in-australia-chinese-teaching-chinese-to-chinese","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2008\/mandarin-classes-in-australia-chinese-teaching-chinese-to-chinese\/","title":{"rendered":"Mandarin classes in Australia: &#8216;Chinese teaching Chinese to Chinese&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A soon-to-be released study of enrollments in Mandarin classes in Australia has yet more evidence that the much hyped craze for Mandarin learning isn&#8217;t what it might seem to be (as I keep saying). <\/p>\n<p>In Australia, by the final year of senior high school, 94% of those who began to study Mandarin sometime earlier have dropped the subject, and 94% of the relatively small group who remain are ethnically Chinese, resulting in a situation in which &#8220;the teaching and learning of Chinese in Australia is overwhelmingly a matter of Chinese teaching Chinese to Chinese.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Things don&#8217;t get much more direct than that. <\/p>\n<p>From a newspaper story that quotes the report:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Unless the drop-out rate is tackled, &#8220;there seems little point in planning to expand the number of students starting Chinese at school&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>The report attributes the drop-out rate to three factors. Students studying Chinese as a second language are &#8220;overwhelmed&#8221; in assessments by &#8220;strong numbers&#8221; of students who have Chinese as a first language.<\/p>\n<p>Second, they don&#8217;t develop sufficient proficiency because of the difficulty in learning Chinese and the inadequate time set aside for it.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, they are trying to learn Chinese &#8220;in an often unsupportive environment at school, in their family, and in the community&#8221;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The report, by Dr. Jane Orton of the Melbourne Graduate School of Education at Melbourne University, will be presented to a forum late this month on Mandarin language education. I&#8217;ll post more once I&#8217;ve had a chance to read it. <\/p>\n<p>Thanks to Victor Mair for alerting me to this. <\/p>\n<p>source: <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theage.com.au\/national\/demand-for-asia-study-overhaul-20081011-4ysm.html?page=-1\">Demand for Asia study overhaul<\/a>, the <em>Age<\/em>, October 12, 2008<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>further reading: <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/thelinguafranca.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/13\/chinese-language-programs-in-australia-94-drop-out-rate\/\">Chinese Language Programs in Australia: 94% Drop-Out Rate<\/a>, the Lingua Franca, October 13, 2008<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2008\/foreign-languages-in-nz-secondary-schools\/\">foreign languages in NZ secondary schools<\/a>, Pinyin News, September 6, 2008<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2008\/uk-degree-program-enrollments-in-foreign-languages\/\">UK degree-program enrollments in foreign languages<\/a>, Pinyin News, August 21, 2008<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2008\/us-post-secondary-enrollments-in-foreign-languages-and-the-position-of-mandarin\/\">US post-secondary enrollments in foreign languages and the position of Mandarin<\/a>, Pinyin News, August 18, 2008<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=518\">U.S. college language enrollments<\/a>, Language Log, August 21, 2008 (about the Pinyin News post above)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2008\/results-of-us-ap-exams-first-year-for-mandarin-japanese\/\">Results of US AP exams: first year for Mandarin, Japanese<\/a>, Pinyin News, February 14, 2008<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A soon-to-be released study of enrollments in Mandarin classes in Australia has yet more evidence that the much hyped craze for Mandarin learning isn&#8217;t what it might seem to be (as I keep saying). In Australia, by the final year &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/2008\/mandarin-classes-in-australia-chinese-teaching-chinese-to-chinese\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12,28,32,107],"tags":[602],"class_list":["post-1496","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-chinese","category-languages","category-mandarin","category-teach-chinese","tag-australia"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1496","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1496"}],"version-history":[{"count":15,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1496\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1540,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1496\/revisions\/1540"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1496"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1496"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pinyin.info\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1496"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}